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sidecar company

Post by don » Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:32 pm

Hi i am new to the site and going to be getting a sidecar the one i am looking at is from a company in montreal they are called trans-moto does anyone have any infor on them and is it a good product i ride a 2006 electra glide i am doing this so i can take the wife on the back and the dog in the sidecar i have been told that having a pasenger on the bike will make it hard to turn is this just BS or a fact i need lots of information thanks Don

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Re: sidecar company

Post by jleonard » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:23 am

Well I don't know trans-moto well (haven't heard anything bad about them, just not that familiar)

Weightwise, you ideally would want more weight in the sidecar (having the dog in there and the wife in the back might lead to some issues) - it can be done, but you may want to add some ballast to the sidecar and might want to get some practice driving on your own (with ballast weight) first.

It isn't so much a matter of being hard to turn, as how the sidecar responds in a turn. In a right hand sharp turn, the sidecar (depending on weight in the sidecar, total weight of the sidecar, how sharp the turn, etc) will tend to lift. So you can end up "flying the chair" or literally having the sidecar wheel leave the ground. (This isn't a problem really, and indeed its a good idea to practice this by doing a sharp right circle in a parking lot until the sidecar lifts, so you know how to respond either through braking or steering until the sidecar drops again.)

In a sharp left turn, the rear wheel will lighten a bit - but this is much more difficult to do than lifting the sidecar.

By putting the heavier passenger behind the rider, you end up with things being weighted incorrectly - ideally the weight is situated right in the sidecar seat (in a kind of triangle between the three wheels) So the sidecar may lift more easily, and this may cause issues for an inexperienced driver.

Like I said can be done, but ideally you may want to get both the wife and the dog in the sidecar (depending on the size of the dog)

Hope this helps a bit :) Will see if I can get another member with an HD to chime in a bit on this as well

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Re: sidecar company

Post by Gummiente » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:51 am

Trans Moto has been around for awhile but I've yet to meet anyone who has one of their sidecars, so I can't comment on the quality or reputation. They do seem to be on the pricey side and keep in mind the prices posted on their site probably do not include taxes and installation fees, so be sure to clarify that first before budgeting the funds.

If the sidecar is setup properly, your Harley will have no problem handling a passenger on the back and a dog in the hack. If Trans Moto is as good as they claim to be, they should make a point of setting up your rig specific to your needs. This may include ditching the air shocks in favour of Progressive Suspension shocks on the bike and possibly adding some ballast in the sidecar. There are (expensive) modifications available for the front end that can help reduce the steering effort, especially at low speeds, which should also be discussed by your installer. The Harley will require more effort to turn when fully loaded and with a sidecar, but not to the point of physical exhaustion IF the setup is done right. As your bike is an 06 model, you should get the heavy duty drive belt installed at your local dealer to cope with the added stress. This will be expensive, figure on around $1k installed, but worth it in terms of longevity. My Road Glide is an 07, which is the year they started coming with the heavy duty belt from the factory... but check with your dealer to make sure, as my memory isn't what it used to be. Get a CAA Plus or Premiere membership, it gives you 4 free tows within a 200km radius using specialised towing equipment (ie: flatbed truck). Cheap insurance, especially if a drive belt breaks while out on a tour. You don't want to pay out of your own pocket for a sidecar rig tow! You should also consider having a seat belt installed in the sidecar for your dog - Pet Smart sells a restraining harness that clips onto an ordinary lap seat belt and allows your pet to move around but not jump out.

One last, but not unimportant point... your installer should provide for you some training and instruction specific to operating a sidecar rig. The dynamics of driving three wheeled bikes are quite different from that of riding two wheelers and there are many factors you MUST be aware of before you motor off on your new rig.
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Re: sidecar company

Post by jleonard » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:48 am

This is why I'm glad to have Mike around in the forum - knows his stuff!

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Re: sidecar company

Post by don » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:37 pm

thankyou for the information this is going to help a lot. i am leading to the Hannigan what do you all think instaled and fully loaded almost $10.000 living in ontario and with most sidecars coming from USA its costly but cani wait till next spring ... DON

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Re: sidecar company

Post by Gummiente » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:52 pm

don wrote:i am leading to the Hannigan what do you all think instaled and fully loaded almost $10.000
There are cheaper alternatives available.

EDIT: Not that there's anything wrong with a Hannigan, they are good sidecars. I'm just saying that if price is a concern, there are cheaper sidecar models out there with comparable quality.
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Re: sidecar company

Post by don » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:26 pm

Hi Mike can you give me a few names of the companys and can you tell me do i nead a brake on the sidecar thanks Don

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Re: sidecar company

Post by Gummiente » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:18 am

don wrote:Hi Mike can you give me a few names of the companys and can you tell me do i nead a brake on the sidecar thanks Don
If you're going to be hauling a lot of gear and have a large sidecar like a double-wide Hannigan, it would be a good idea to have a brake on the outboard wheel. If it's just your dog and some luggage in a smaller sidecar the Harley's twin front discs and single rear disc should suffice, but it's your decision. As for other sidecars, check out the Dealer News section of this forum.
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Re: sidecar company

Post by FundyRider » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:39 am

Don,

Don't know where you are but give Old Vintage Cranks a call for comparison. I get the sense from this and other sites that they have a lot of experience and will give you the straight goods.

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Re: sidecar company

Post by jleonard » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:16 pm

Seconded on that - they're my dealer and I've driven a few of their sidecar rigs and they have always been nicely setup. Disclaimer though, I do the website for them so I am connected to them in that regard - however I would recommend them regardless and trust their opinions and quality of work.

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